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Comments on: The Globe’s Brave Surrender http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363 Thoughts and musings on the world Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Kayli Morehouse http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363&cpage=1#comment-876126 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:30:23 +0000 http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363#comment-876126 Really appreciate you sharing this article.Really thank you! Cool.

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By: Pete The Elder http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363&cpage=1#comment-22389 Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:37:50 +0000 http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363#comment-22389 s dubious virtues; that is a classical repression of free speech" It was the state of the union, not a political rally. This is no where near a classical repression of free speech since the Senate has rules of behavior and Sheehan was an invited guest. The only person with a right to speak at the <em>state of the union</em> address is the president. See article 2 section III of the constution. It mentions the president addressing congress, not Cindy Sheehan. "As for the rest of your reply, it is really just a manifestation of the way that conservatives answer any criticisms of their ailing regime these days" So you are in favor of getting rid of our regime? We currently have a federal republic. What type of regime do you think should take its place? "just can’t understand why you are worried about those “core values” when those values are being undermined by the very regime that you so blindly follow." I am interested in knowing what part of the republic is undermining the very values you are talking about. As far as I can tell the president was allowed to speak at the State of the Union. Perhaps there are other instances of our federalist republic attacking these core values, but so far you have not demonstrated any of them. Either that, or you are using words like "regime" without knowing what they mean.]]> “but in a Stalinist act of repression she was ejected” If it was a Stalinist act she would have been put through a show trial and either executed or sent to Siberia. Instead she was removed from the building and the police later apoligized. Stalin would be very disappointed. I suggest that reasonable discourse may a skill you need to work on and that comparing ejecting a woman from a speech to the mass murder of millions of people for their political views makes you sound like a complete nutjob.

“Having a political rally extolling the virtues of dear leader and then ejecting someone who – quite politely – questions some of dear leader’s dubious virtues; that is a classical repression of free speech” It was the state of the union, not a political rally. This is no where near a classical repression of free speech since the Senate has rules of behavior and Sheehan was an invited guest. The only person with a right to speak at the state of the union address is the president. See article 2 section III of the constution. It mentions the president addressing congress, not Cindy Sheehan.

“As for the rest of your reply, it is really just a manifestation of the way that conservatives answer any criticisms of their ailing regime these days” So you are in favor of getting rid of our regime? We currently have a federal republic. What type of regime do you think should take its place?

“just can’t understand why you are worried about those “core values” when those values are being undermined by the very regime that you so blindly follow.” I am interested in knowing what part of the republic is undermining the very values you are talking about. As far as I can tell the president was allowed to speak at the State of the Union. Perhaps there are other instances of our federalist republic attacking these core values, but so far you have not demonstrated any of them. Either that, or you are using words like “regime” without knowing what they mean.

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By: Anonymous http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363&cpage=1#comment-22250 Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:04:42 +0000 http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363#comment-22250 s dubious virtues; that is a classical repression of free speech. As for the rest of your reply, it is really just a manifestation of the way that conservatives answer any criticisms of their ailing regime these days. I mean, they’re always talking points if you don’t agree with them. And they’re always partisan points if they are points of view not supportive of your cause. But, trust me, I support the newspapers’ right to publish whatever they like – no matter how unnecessary or irresponsible that material may be – I just can’t understand why you are worried about those “core values” when those values are being undermined by the very regime that you so blindly follow. Could it be that you’re so worried about free speech because those that are threatening it aren’t Bush supporters? Could it be that –god forbid - you’re just a little bit partisan yourself?]]> The republican representative’s wife was ejected because the security misconstrued her t-shirt to be anti-bush in nature. And, call them rules of decorum if you’d like, but essentially the intent is clear: they are a repression of free speech. I mean, it isn’t exactly like her shirt was strewn with profanity or even anything confronting; but in a Stalinist act of repression she was ejected.

Having a political rally extolling the virtues of dear leader and then ejecting someone who – quite politely – questions some of dear leader’s dubious virtues; that is a classical repression of free speech. As for the rest of your reply, it is really just a manifestation of the way that conservatives answer any criticisms of their ailing regime these days. I mean, they’re always talking points if you don’t agree with them. And they’re always partisan points if they are points of view not supportive of your cause.

But, trust me, I support the newspapers’ right to publish whatever they like – no matter how unnecessary or irresponsible that material may be – I just can’t understand why you are worried about those “core values” when those values are being undermined by the very regime that you so blindly follow. Could it be that you’re so worried about free speech because those that are threatening it aren’t Bush supporters? Could it be that –god forbid – you’re just a little bit partisan yourself?

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By: Dangerous Dan http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363&cpage=1#comment-21795 Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:00:59 +0000 http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363#comment-21795 Anonymous, that has got to be the stupidest comment ever. Sheehan was kicked out as well as a Republican representative’s wife who was wearing a pro-Bush shirt. They were ejected based on rules of decorum that there is not to be demonstrating in the chambers, which is entirely appropriate.

This is also a miserable comparison. If the press were prohibited from displaying her shirt (if she would have stayed) or if newspapers were not allowed to print death tallies on their front pages, then you’d have a case.

It’s amazing that you can take an instance of broad intercultural conflict with severe ramifications for the world and then take it down to some wimpy political partisan talking point that doesn’t even hold.

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By: Anonymous http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363&cpage=1#comment-21793 Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:42:02 +0000 http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363#comment-21793 “It can either defend its core values of free speech and a free press and insist Muslims put up with these values or assimilate them, or the West can roll over and adopt Islamic religious edicts as binding on it through self-censorship.”

Its core values of free speech? Like the free speech Cindy Sheehan was afforded when she attended the SOTU address wearing a t-shirt not in line with Bush’s particular tastes?

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By: pamela http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363&cpage=1#comment-21671 Tue, 07 Feb 2006 15:06:17 +0000 http://dangerousdan.us/?p=1363#comment-21671 Extremely well articulated, Dan. The Washington Post published a great op-ed piece by a bureau chief of the German weekly De Zeit today that I wholeheartedly agree with.

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